Masculinity is the norm, so everything we do that isn’t hyperfeminine will be considered unfeminine/masculine - since gender neutrality does not exist in patriarchy, one cannot perform it. It’s not about trying to be like men, it’s that masculinity is seen as the default, so everything that isn’t outright feminine automatically becomes masculine in the eyes of the beholder.
The choices are limited by the fact that men are viewed as people and women are not. So anything we do as a person is going to be defined as acting like a man. When women are viewed as people then what we do will be viewed as things people do.
Funnily enough, if I had to describe feeling like a woman I would go with “extreme discomfort with my body”
So I was reading the newspaper comics because I’m actually seven, and
In the next panel the shark wants to mate with the seal and gets really angry because the seal refuses.
These damn cis-seal oppressors!
Gamer gate has been trying to use Bayonetta as a rallying point, and criticism of it as proof of a “feminist agenda” in reviews
They’ve been trying to get Hideki Kamiya, creator of Bayonetta, to support them
the salt is so fucking real
this needs the highlight of him being pestered by these kids
So my hand is a face-rest now.
When the guys you know have grown up consuming a steady diet of “filthy whores” and “abused teens” and “ghetto sluts,” what makes you think they will know how to treat you like a human?
pisslover: I’m not into trans women because I’m a lesbian
trans woman: actually there’s trans women lesbians out there and there’s cis women lesbians who love trans women but ok whatever
pisslover: THAT WAS A LITERAL ATTEMPT TO COERCE ME INTO SEX OR SOMETHING
Except this is almost never the point they’re attempting to make. Let me share just a few of the many quotes with you. (Click the names for a link to the receipt.)
"I’ll believe cis lesbians aren’t attracted to penises when they stop using strap-ons and dildos" - Jonesinforjosie
"refusing to have sex with any woman who has a penis, [is] trans exclusive and transphobic" - lettuceiscurrentlyinmyasshole
"PERF" is transphobic, you are saying that you would not date someone with a penis, therefore excluding trans women who may have a penis." - glassbottledemon
"lesbians who don’t want to have sex with pre-op trans women are so overwhelmingly transphobic i think it’s safe to say all of them [should die]" - Woot100
That’s a weird way to try and argue that you can be a lesbian and still date or fuck trans women. When you call someone transphobic for not liking penises, you are shaming them for not being willing to consent to certain kinds of sex. That IS coercion. Maybe instead of shaming people for not consenting to sex that might find uncomfortable, traumatic, or triggering, you say what you’re supposedly trying to say out right.
I’m so glad you linked each of the posts because I’m noticing how lettuce made it clear that the issue was Treating Penis As A Man Only Thing by claiming you’re attracted to women and then saying never any trans women.
Similarly, each of the others had an issue with the stereotyping and inconsistencies involved in the revulsion for trans women. (the only real exception being woot, who still was just giving a general attack on all transmisogynists. Not really getting into the reasons why they’re transmisogynist)
It’s funny how you literally have to quote mine, strip context and hoax shit in order to get any real backing for your claim that this is all a plan to get into people’s pants.Standard for your kind.
I will never understand how some people can hear “it’s dehumanizing and hateful to declare an entire caste of women to be unlovable and push notions that they’re untouchable,” and translate that to “you have to fuck me personally right now because reasons.”
Literally 75% of the worst scare quotes she could pull, even devoid of context, say “excluding trans women is discriminatory and hurtful.”
At least half the problem - in my opinion, anyway - is that “straight”, “lesbian”, “gay”, and their synonyms are inherently trans-exclusionary*. “Lesbian” and “identifies female, prefers to date/fuck people with a vulva” are not synonymous, and “gay” and “identifies male, prefers to date/fuck people with a penis” are not synonymous, but society insists on treating them like they are.
I’m not going to insist that someone who identifies as a lesbian has to be interested in sex with trans women, because they’re using an outdated term that doesn’t make a lot of sense in a world where trans people are included in the dialogue. But if someone says “I’m a lesbian and that’s the reason I’m not interested in sex with trans women”, well, then, we have a problem.
And this is, of course, setting aside the fact that you can have sex with a person without engaging their genitalia! In fact, many trans people don’t want to have sex that involves their genitalia; they’re fine with, say, going down on a woman, but don’t want their partner touching their genitals in any way, whether it’s because of dysphoria or some other reason I haven’t thought of yet. The idea that all sex involving a person with a penis is phallo-penetrative is both wrong and deeply unimaginative, and saying “I don’t want a person with a penis to have sex with me in any way” ignores every possible sex act that doesn’t involve their penis.
* Not necessarily deliberately! (Although the baby radfem up there is certainly doing her best.) It’s just that these terms were invented - largely by straight cis people - before trans people were part of the larger discourse, and a lot of people use them because that’s just the word they know.
Just look at this clusterfuck! Really scary stuff.
I asked my magic question machine “What would it look like if Rob Liefeld did Sailor Moon?” It printed out this, followed by ten pages of “why would you ask this? why would you ask this?”.
"I can’t even mop a floor guess I better go invade a smaller country and steal its resources I’m sure I’m more capable of doing that."
Anti-feminists say more misandrist crap than feminists have ever dreamed of.
AKA: wow look at me and how i’m so enlightened and special for being so bisexual/pansexual/whatever
"Bi/pan/q*eer/etc can’t be homophobic! Gay people have privilege!"
Nooo! How can u be attracted to only 1 sex?? For the rest of your life???!1!!1 Holy monosexual privilege, batman!
Again with that flawed argument. Once again: secondary sex characteristics serve as biological cues to that particular organism’s biological sex. Human science being capable of artificially replicating secondary sex characteristics is irrelevant when it comes to sexuality.
These hypothetical “initial” (pre-sex) attractions towards an individual whose biological sex does not match your sexual orientation does not change the reality that sexuality is entirely about biological sex. It’s always gay people and particularly lesbian women who are the subjects of these “scenarios”, unsurprisingly enough. Classic reparative therapy rhetoric.
Also why do gender worshippers always make it look like you are a bad person because you were attracted at first and then changed your mind?
Hello? Sexual attraction can disappear if certain requirements aren’t met!That’s how sexuality works.
No identity or guilt tripping can change this.
gender - the RPG
Dwarves are now transphobic
- a lesbian should be able to say no to sex to someone with a penis
- it is not a good idea that a a completely untransitioned transwoman should be allowed to stay in a women’s prison
- hormones with significant health effects shouldn’t be sold over the counter
- biological sex isn’t completely a social construct
- that being male/female isn’t only a matter of self identity
funny how there is no such thing as TEMRAs. even though the amount of heterosexual men who would reject a trans woman is probably MUCH higher than any other demographic. most men can’t even stomach a male penis in their porn (see: why solo porn is so popular)
probably because men are allowed to reject penis. because they are human. only women are forced to actually take penis. we are subhuman. fuck this earth.
Lebians exist for identity validation. That’s why they have to deal with so much trans rage. Identity, identity, identity - the one and only thing that your attracted should depend on if you are a lesbian.
Men use women as shields. Why else would a critique of the prostitution industry, suddenly be about women’s choices and not men’s? Men use women as shields, and thats why men’s problems, suddenly become a woman’s issue